If ya wanna hurt me…
November 10th, 2005You’re gonna have to try harder. I’m speaking to friends and enemies both here.
If you love me, stop apologizing for speaking your mind and if you’re trying to figure out how to hate me, give it up. You gave it everything you had and missed.
I appreciate the love and I’m man enough to take the abuse. Is it the reading or the comprehension where you’re lacking? I’ve told you more than once that you don’t have enough.
I’ve been living with me and beating on me for thirty-five years. Where’s the part where you think you figured out something new?
Is it easier for you to understand if I say it loud?
“YOU DON’T HAVE ENOUGH!”
I don’t have enough witty comments, that’s what I don’t have. Seems like this would be a good point for witty banter, but I’m completely at a loss.
*sigh*
I love witty banter almost more than anything in the world.
But I think you just missed my point entirely, sweetheart. Spending your life beatin’ on yourself is worse than spending it selfishly.
I’ve been learning that the hard way recently.
Isn’t beating on yourself selfish? Hogging all that good beating time which other people would probably like use. ;)
Yep, beating on your”self” is “self”ishness, too. It’s the “self” part that’s the problem. Only one remedy to that – the Cross. I’m not into psychobabble stuff, but there are things that are known by observation and you are just where you should be for what you are going through. Just keep turning to Yeshua. I agree with Joelle that a blog is much cheaper than a therapist (besides most wouldn’t be a help anyway since most use psychobabble instead of the Cross.) Not going to beat on you here, DC, just pray.
Love and shalom,
Serena
DC,
I wouldn’t say I entirely missed your point, just that your last sentence seemed like it would make a great segue into witty banter. =P
…from Man to Man by Gary Allan…
You’re throwin’ around a lot of serious accusations
Ain’t too hard to tell what you’re insinuatin’
You think I’m the one who stole her away
And if not fo rme she’d still be yours today
We’re both men here so why play games
Why don’t we call a spade a spade
Man to man
Tell me the truth, tell me
Were you ever there when she needed you
Man to man
Look me in the eye, tell me
If you really loved her
Why’d you make her cry
Man to man
Who cheated who
You’re the one to blame
Tell me it ain’t true
Man to man
Man to man
Well you think al you anger is justified
Me, I think, it’s just your wounded pride
What did you really think she was gonna do
She’s a real woman, not a doormat for you
You want her back, but it’s too late
Why don’t we just cut to the chase
Man to man
Tell me the truth, tell me
Were you ever there when she needed you
Man to man
Look me in the eye, tell me
If you really loved her
Why’d you make her cry
Man to man
Who cheated who
You’re the one to blame
Tell me it ain’t true
Man to man
Man to man
Tell me the truth, tell me
Were you ever there when she needed you
Man to man
Look me in the eye, tell me
If you really loved her
Why’d you make her cry
Man to man
Who cheated who
You’re the one to blame
Tell me it ain’t true
Man to man
Man to man
Man to man…
Lyrics are fun, but they’re not all speaking directly to you.
Even more, I’ve come to realize that they’re not necessary speaking about anyone else you know either.
Rock on, stupid.
DC,
See there, you don’t have to be old to be wise.
Know who sang that? Nope not VH.
;)
WindRider95,
You’re an idiot if you think making a woman cry makes her husband a bad man, or that it means he deserves to have her leave him.
I’ve cried because of my husband, before. But I know he loves me and I have enough sense to know that two people that live together often rub each other the wrong way and hurt each other’s feelings. It’s important not to let your feelings control you.
We frequently hurt the people we love. I’m sure I’ve hurt every single one of my family members at some point in my life, just as most of them have hurt me. We all still love each other very much though, and aren’t going to write each other out of our lives just because they did something that hurt us!
Unless he was beating the shit out of her, cheating on her, or doing his best to deliberately hurt her on a continual basis, DC’s wife had no legitimate reason to separate from him. She left him because SHE was selfish, not because he drove her to it.
(Sorry DC if my jumping in bothers you, just got a little hot under the collar.)
Arielle,
“You’re an idiot if you think making a woman cry makes her husband a bad man, or that it means he deserves to have her leave him.”
You’re a wise women. Marriage isn’t a state of perfect happieness where everything is always peachy. It’s hard work (sometimes) that will only pay off if both spouses are pulling 100% all the time.
Men and women both get selfish and stupid, but with constant commitment and grace marraige can be a great thing. But it takes two working all the time to make that happen. When it doesn’t hearts are broken.
Yep, Res and Arielle. Have to see yourself through the blood of Jesus, as God does. Have to lean, by faith, on God…even when you don’t *feel* Him there.
Folks erroneously think that they’re gonna get joy-juice from God, every day, that will override the juice one can get from sin. ‘Cause their faith is based on the circumstances they experience…not on the solid promises of God… I’m learning that myself…that I must trust God, even when life says I should throw up my hands and give up on Him. He’s never given up on me.
Hang in there, DC. Hope in the Lord. Through the pain…He’ll walk with you.
Dang, DC, I gotta swing by here more often. You seem beset. Don’t let the bastards grind you down, buddy.
TexasWoman,
None of us are “Good Christians” because we all have areas in which we fail to follow Yeshua. The only goodness we have comes from Him, and we will struggle with our sinful flesh until the day we die.
As long as we’re quoting Scripture:
“Do not judge so that you will not be judged.
“For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.
“Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?”
For goodness sakes…time to spray for trolls, DC, methinks.
Do not let these shitheads post again, I beg you.
These fuck-knobs need bibs when they type.
Save yourself…kill them all…
Golly, DC, let me second Bane’s proposal! This is getting ridiculous! Not that it hasn’t given me a laugh, but the venom is starting to eat away at my monitor!
Yeah, I’m pretty reluctant to ban people. I generally prefer to just let them show off their stupidity, but 20+ comments of dead, satanic, religious nonsense in one short evening is pushing my limit pretty hard.
Yep. Stupidity is only good for a laugh in limited doses!
Bane
So posting an opinion makes me a troll, does it? Damn, your analysis is so good. But I stand by my opinion that from reading many of DCs blog entries, it’s pretty obvious that he needs some kind of help. As it’s completely his choice as to whether he seeks that help or not (and he chooses not, instead he chooses to blog his anger), then my opinion, to me, is one that is completely valid.
Nas, how exactly did you become an expert on the proper expression of pain? You are able to speak with such clarity and insight to a heart you know nothing of. Cowboy blogs his anger. Well, hell… it’s HIS blog. Go piss in your own yard.
Hello Heidi. You have no idea who I am, yet you claim I am no expert on specific expressions of emotions. You need to look at yourself first, as your anger is just as apparent as that of Mr DC here.
Hey! So cool! My anger is apparent. I thought I was being subtle and all that. It would be wonderful if the insightful and brilliant Nas could instruct me. Oh, no… I forgot. I have a real life with real friends and counsel from people I actually respect. Not a complete stranger. As for being like the Cowboy? Thanks! I’ve found his expressions of life both insightful and challenging. Sometimes rough around the edges, sometimes funny. Sometimes boring (I don’t get poker… sorry) and sometimes inflamatory. His willingness to actually deal openly with the struggles of a life torn apart while still holding fast to integrity and honor toward a woman who doesn’t seem to comprehend the greatness of that sacrifice is inspiring.
Strong emotions don’t frighten me. Ahh. I have spent too much time on an opinion I care little about.
:)
In an aside. Cowboy doesn’t need or request my defense. :) It’s just fun to poke at someone who responds so quickly.
Quite frankly, I respect DC for blogging his anger instead of ‘seeking help’. Everyone runs to shrinks these days. I’ve seen little evidence that it actually helps. DC certainly isn’t harming anyone by expressing his anger or his opinions in this format.
Touch the trigger, and out they come. If the wonderful Ms Heidi needs subtle instruction from the insightful and brilliant Nas, then she really needs to get her real life together with her real friends and probably get some counselling, just like Mr DC. Jeez, get over yourself woman.
And if you find the inability to let go of the past and the inability to move on from the 80s an inspiration, then by all means, be a complete idiot. If you truly love someone, and they don’t want to be in your life, normal people decide to simply let them go. But you find his reluctance to do just that an inspiration? Congratulations! And you find DC insightful and challenging? Oh my, for what? Spewing out lyrics from Van Halen? You said he’s sometimes boring though…so all hope is not lost yet.
And as an aside, I fail to see how responding to someone who has been blogging since February is ‘someone who responds so quickly’. You’d better not post your response before August 2006.
Arielle, DC isn’t just expressing opinions…he’s expressing rage against somebody else. In his own words:
‘I don’t wanna go whip his ass. I know I can and she’s practically begging me to do it. … If they keep pushin’…. I can no longer be responsible for my actions.’
Does that not strike you as not quite normal?
Hey, Nas, shut-up. You know nothing about me and nothing about the situation. You’re spewing ignorance.
I’m pretty tolerant, but this isn’t Rincewind’s playground and if you want to keep playing this game, I’ll just ban you. At least he knows when to quit, usually.
You’re interrupting otherwise thoughtful conversation being carried on here by decent people. If you want to be civil, you’re welcome to continue posting here. If you want to incessantly continue this childishness, you’re gone.
Who the heck is Rincewind?
Just so you know, I’m also divorced, but that’s life, plain and simple…you need to get a grip and move on.
I’ve been civil, but ban the ones that you disagree with if you must. It only goes to highlight your true character.
Again, if you knew anything about me, you’d know I encourage disagreement around here. But you’ve already proved your reading comprehension sucks so I also wouldn’t expect you to be motivated or smart enough to read any of the 200+ other posts I did here before you started trolling.
Disagreement is lovely. Personal attacks are immature and, even then, I don’t delete or ban anything because somebody attacks me. I find it rather amusing. But when you are constantly contentious and are picking fights with others here, you’re trolling.
Oh, and, just so you know… Heidi’s quick response remark wasn’t about me, Sparky. She was talking about you apparently hitting refresh on my blog for hours at a time to see if anybody’s responded to you.
But I’m the one that needs to get a life, right?
Ah, it’s all so crystal clear now.
Post a blog, receive some honest criticism, label it as personal attacks/trolling, still not understand life.
Have fun. You sound like you certainly need it.
And by the way, you never did answer me…who the heck is Rincewind?
Did you all hear that? Nas called me wonderful. Maybe he’s/she’s not as ignorant as he/she appears to be. All in all. This is boring.
Cowboy, post something really weird and hateful. And make sure you do so in 80′s lyrics. I find it inspiriational.
And because I simply cannot let this slide…
“If you truly love someone, and they don’t want to be in your life, normal people decide to simply let them go
Wow. I’m glad God doesn’t think the way you do.
It is really stinky when someone cannot give someone else the grace to go through what they need to in their own time. Just because I have been through a divorce does not mean I can tell DC that he has to be over it and move on. He has to follow his Father’s leading and I can tell you from personal experience that is not always that easy. He has to work through the emotional crap of it all and that works different for everyone. I have no problem with him working out his anger and depression on his own blog. I also know that what he needs right now is prayer, not self-appointed, self-righteous people to tell him how he has to do it all and to kick him when he is already down. Last I knew, if someone is redeemed then they need to encourage and pull their brother out of the ditch, not kick him back in.
DC, I know our Father will be able to handle any of this in your life and He will get you through. He can also handle the anger, the depression, the confusion, the struggle. So just keep going to Him.
Love and shalom,
Serena
Nas,
Actually, DC’s anger strikes me as completely and absolutely normal. In a situation similar to his, I’d have a lot of anger simmering too. Most normal people would. Most normal people would be willing to admit they were angry too.
Telling someone “get help” is not in the least bit constructive. It’s just something someone says when they’re feeling smugly superior to whomever they’ve just said that to.
who are all these desperate women defending this whacko?
Elsie,
You may see desperate women defending a whacko, I see sisters standing up for their brother.
(I also find it interesting that people are supposedly finding their way here “accidentally” or at random, yet feel compelled to insult DC before they go.)
They are, unlike you elsie, people who actually know me.
It’s no accident, Arielle. They’re all coming from one place. It’s a childish little game being played by a bunch of hateful, godless people that apparently have way too much time on their hands. The part I find fascinating and ironic is that they posted so many of their hateful comments on this particular thread. As I asked in the post, “Is it the reading or your comprehension where you’re lacking?”
Just ignore them. If they bother me, I’ll delete/and or ban them.
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