Parents who don’t love their kids
April 23rd, 2005“The uh, the uh, I think there were some jelly beans thrown. The teacher got the rest of the kids out of the classroom for safety’s sake.”
Vox is usually right and he certainly is about government schools. If you love your kids, you’ll never let them near a government building, especially if it’s a school. If your kids are in government schools it’s because you’re ignorant or lazy. I hope it’s the former. If so, maybe I can help.
The lead into this post was a quote from a reporter covering a story about a 5 year old girl that was arrested… Did you get that? She was ARRESTED! As in: she was handcuffed and carried away in a cruiser for… throwing jelly beans.
FIVE YEARS OLD!
HANDCUFFED!
Thank God the teacher was on top of things and got all the other children to “safety” before they got hit with a jelly bean.
I got your “socialization” right here. Your primary argument against home education is my primary reason for doing it. I don’t want my kids exposed to this kind of “socialization.” It’s the blind leading the blind. Or, perhaps, it’s the evil leading the evil. Either way, my kids deserve better no matter what it costs me.
They deserve an education, too, and they won’t get it there.
DC, you’re going to make me cry. =P My husband is insisting on public schooling for the “socialization” aspect and WILL NOT listen to what I have to say on the subject.
I’m praying that he’ll have a change of heart before our son is school age.
I’d compare public schooling your children to sacrificing them to Molech. Though when this image came to mind, it was accompanied by a reminder that Shadrach, Meshach & Abednego passed through the fire unharmed while an angel stood beside them.
Still, I’d rather not have that happen at all.
Oh yes, nice to have you posting again. =)
Thanks, Arielle. I’m sorry I was AWOL for so long.
If you think I could help, I’ll be glad to talk to your husband. My phone number is freely available in email (digitalcowboy at mac.com).
As my husband just said, “What kind of police officers are those? That’s scary!” Considering that the police guarded the entrance to a hospice to keep people from helping a woman to live, it really is scary what is going on with the police. We definitely have lost a lot of our freedom and what is sad is that so many people do not recognize that.
I posted on your other post about home education a link about socialization that I am sure that you will enjoy.
I’m glad that you would talk to Arielle’s husband. I’m definitely praying for YHWH to get ahold of him and for his whole world view to change as he gets a real relationship with His Redeemer, Yeshua.
One of my other son-in-laws would be glad that you have a mac (as least I assume you do since you have a mac address). He has convinced us to switch when we get another computer. At this point, it is not possible for us but I am learning to use a mac a little when I am at their place.
Hey, here are pics of my newest grandson.
http://www.deatherage.info
He was born at home almost a week ago now. We get to see him again tomorrow. Yeah!
Also notice that I started another blog and have a post on it. You may be interested in it since it deals with religion.
Love and shalom,
Serena
Arielle,
You’re an intelligent, wonderful young lady and I’m sure you are a great mom. Don’t worry if you have to put your kids in public school. God will be with you and His grace is sufficient.
I do not agree with Vox and Cowboy about parents loving their children more if they homeschool. I had both my girls in Kindergarten (no arrests made, thank God)and it was a good experience for them. I may even send my son to Kindergarten next year and use that time to homeschool my girls. I would prefer not to, but my husband would like him to have that experience. So I’m keeping that one in prayer also.
However, I do believe that homeschooling is a far better experience and wonderful for the family. I grow and learn as much as my girls do. So continue to pray for you hubby, but remember that God has appointed him as your covering so you need to submit to him even when you sharply disagree.
God will cover all of you.
But pray. A lot, a lot, a lot, can happen in a few years.
I never said anything about loving more or less. I don’t believe in such degrees. The title of this post is “Parents who don’t love their kids.” If you are married and your kids are in government schools, it’s because:
1) Either you, your spouse or both is/are ignorant
2) Either you, your spouse or both love(s) material things instead of your children and they’re just another possession to you
It’s really that simple.
You either love your children or they are pets. Pets can be easily sent off to the kennel when you don’t want to deal with them. (That analogy breaks down a bit because kennels care more about your pets than the schools do about your kids.)
Not every public school is bad all the time. My kids went to a fabulous public school, filled with very caring adults and they loved it.
Don’t get me wrong. They had just about the best experience one could ask for and I still hated every aspect of it. But it didn’t ruin them. Far, far from it.
And I know a lot of parents who are definitely not ignorant or uncaring that send their children to public school. I know many home schooling families that send their children into public school for the high school years.
I would personally love to keep my kids home with me till college. But, if my kids start begging for public highschool when they get older, I will entertain the idea.
There is an honest difference of opinion about what is best for our children even amongst Christians. Every family has to make that choice for themselves. And while I am a strong advocate for homeschooling. I could never tell any of my dear, christian friends who send their kids off to public school that they are ignorant or selfish for doing so. The pastor of my church sends his to public school. He is one of the most kind, encouraging, intelligent and informed people I know. And his family is tight and loving. His kids are fabulous and unspoiled.
You are entitled to your opinion. And I think you are doing an awesome job with your little girls. They are so blessed to have you fathering them. But remeber that with empahtic pronouncements of judgememt you also impune even God’s servants who are treading his field in obedience.
I understand what you are saying DC. I feel the same about parents who work to have more things and a “better” lifestyle while giving the care of their children to hirelings. They are our little lambs and we are to be their shepherd. When we hire or give our authority over them to others, they are only hirelings. They do not care as we do about our children. They do not know our children as we do. We have an awesome responsibility before the One who entrusted those children into our care for how we handle that care. That is one of the main reasons I home educate my children and have on the most part for the last 20 years. It is also why I am a stay at home mom and am willing to suffer financially to be home with my children. My husband had a mom who was not there for him and got in all kinds of trouble and he is committed to my being home. These last 3 years have been very difficult financially and I have offered to get a job to help at times (though it has gone against everything in me) and he has wanted me to stay home. So we have seen our Father miraculously provide so many times and are learning so much when we have chosen to trust Him.
I am not very easy on those who think they cannot stay home and will trust their children into the hands of hirelings be it public school or day care. I even think that the system in the church of segregating children into their own classes falls under this. It may get me flamed, but oh well…
Our children are our responsibility and if we are not willing to take on that responsibility then we better rethink getting married and bringing them into the world. They should have parents that think they are far more important than a “better” lifestyle or material possesions. They are some of the true riches our Father gives us (Psalm 127:3, Ps 128)
Love and shalom,
Serena
Serena,
Congratulations, Grandma on that beautiful baby boy. Now, is that your daughter or son who had him?
Toodles.
When I read the post I just posted to my husband he said, “It does not take a village to raise our children but a community.” He defined that community as the household of the redeemed. Knowing my husband as well as I do, I know he is not meaning “church” by that but the community of those who love the Lord and that are in relationship to one another. That is a rarity in the “church” by our experience.
Shalom,
Serena
That is my daughter. She is my 2nd born. They got married last June and are now blessed with a precious son. I was so priveleged to be there for the birth. She lives 1.5 hours away from us but my other grown children live much further. I sure wish they were all close, but alas we brought it on our own heads when we purposed to move to a more rural area to give our younger children a better life. My older ones spent their first years in the country and they have very fond memories of those years.
Love and shalom,
Serena
“I’d compare public schooling your children to sacrificing them to Molech.”
Not me. A painful but quick death of an innocent is much better than a system designed to make them lose their soul.
DC,
Thank you for the offer. I wish I could take you up on it, but any such move on my part (bringing in someone he doesn’t know) would get a very negative reaction from my husband. =(
cZja,
I don’t intend to fight with my husband about it. I’ve told him I’ll collect some material on government schooling vs home schooling and have asked him to read it, but I also told him that if he doesn’t change his mind I won’t make it an issue. I don’t want to damage my marriage on top of seeing my children in government indoctrination centers.
Res Ipsa,
The sacrificing to Molech is more of a spiritual thing, though you’re right, the public schooling goes on much longer than the physical sacrifice. In both cases, the rationalization for what they are doing to their children is that it is somehow ‘good for the community’ of whom the parents belong to, and the ‘priests’ (advocates of government schooling) make a lot of noise in order to distract the parents from the cries of their children.
I am dreading the thought of not having enough money to send my daughter to a Christian school next year. Home schooling might be out of the question, but not entirely. It depends on what happens in the next few months.
The thought of putting my brilliant little girl in public school here in The Republik of Kalifornia nearly drives me to tears.
Arielle,
I understand completely and I do agree with cZja that God’s grace is sufficient for your children. Your submission to your husband is more important because that’s what keeps the door open for God to work and to answer your prayers. A Proverbs 31 woman handles these things in prayer.
As for info on government schools, I highly recommend John Taylor Gatto’s book “The Underground History of American Education.” I have a pre-publication copy but the entire book is now available online at his website for free. It filled in the blanks and gave me the facts to back up my instinctive hatred for government schools that was, up to that point, just based on my own experience.
Arielle,
I agree with DC. Submission to your husband is the only proper thing for you to do. If he is open to learning why you believe the way you do, you should provide him with material to make a good decision. Just becasue he starts off sending the kids to PS doesn’t mean they will have to stay there, he may be open to change as he sees things develop in the school.
Thank you for the link to Gatto’s book. We have “Dumbing us Down” and Arielle’s cousing was telling me about this new book of his and I really have wanted to read it. It really isn’t in the budget now so it was so good to know I can read it online. Praise Yah!
Shalom,
Serena
Don’t the police have more important things to do?
Shouldn’t handling a 5 year old throwing jellybeans be second nature to a el-ed teacher.
I’m guessing we know that the girl didn’t throw jellybeans at the cop since he didn’t return fire.
If a el-ed teacher is not capable of handling one child, what are they capable of? Anything, other than how to put a condom on a cukecumber?
Daily, I thank God my wife is staying home and is willing to help in homeschooling our son.
ajw308,
I loved your shot about the cops not returning fire. You’re absolutely right.
Your comment also reminded me that I meant to elaborate on this incident. I saw it repeatedly on Fox News and the kid was a brat that was out of control. They had video. I have no doubt that she’s a problem child created in almost equal parts by bad parenting and government schools. The video they had showed her kicking and fighting. However, that was after they had already taken her to the principal’s office and called the police. The child clearly needs discipline but you have to be a special kind of either stupid or evil to think that the police are the proper people to administer it to a five year old child.
They also reported that the girl had repeatedly complained to her mother that the teacher and the principal “didn’t like her” and that they were picking on her. They didn’t say it outright, but they implied that this five year old was begging to be allowed to quit school because she was so unhappy there.
I think the girl, her mother, the teacher, the principal and the cops involved all need a good old fashioned ass whuppin’.
Yep, I figure she was from one of those “no spanking” homes. I was spanked. And I’m fine.
Almost the right word…
It’s socialism the kids are being taught, not socialization. The insanity where kids are taught the Bible is evil, but child-molesting sodomite teachers, priests and pop stars are OK.
I am very beautiful girl to chat with you and come to your home tonight